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		<title>My attempts at cancelling Setanta Sports</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that the hurling championship is in full swing with RTE and TV3 providing coverage, and with Rugby season over (bar tests which are not on Setanta anyway), I&#8217;ve no need for Setanta for the next while. So I went about cancelling it today. First and foremost, they don&#8217;t provide a geographical number, just an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the hurling championship is in full swing with RTE and TV3 providing coverage, and with Rugby season over (bar tests which are not on Setanta anyway), I&#8217;ve no need for Setanta for the next while. So I went about cancelling it today.</p>
<p>First and foremost, they don&#8217;t provide a geographical number, just an 0818 &#8220;Universal Access&#8221; number (whose original intent was to be a standard &#8220;national&#8221; rate, but now most providers charge a premium for calls, most don&#8217;t bundle, and mobile operators smack on quite a profit). So I use Skype (to beat my Digiweb Metro rates and my o2 rates).<br />
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I call, get through to a pleasant lady who asks me for my account number (didn&#8217;t have viewing card number to hand), and 1st address line. She asks me for the first line of my address and then asks why I wish to cancel. Then she says &#8220;no problem&#8221; and transfers me to &#8220;Customer Loyalty&#8221;. Another lady there, without saying hello or introducing herself in anyway, asks me to confirm my full address. &#8220;Thank you &#8211; beep beep beep&#8221;; I get redirected to the I assume is the 1st option of the IVR main menu, which is to subscribe. After waiting to see if I&#8217;d any other options, I get the 3 beeps again and disconnected completely.</p>
<p>OK, not so bad, I retry again 2 more times. At different stages I get cut off with the beep-beep-beep (which sounds like it&#8217;s their phone system, rather than Skype/telco) and eventually disconnected. FAIL!</p>
<p>Off to fill in the online web form. I do so furnishing them with the required 30-day cancellation notice, my account number, and an instruction to contact me (since I can&#8217;t contact them) if they need any further details. I hit the submit button and am immediately redirected to the contact us page (which lists email address, etc.) and just a generic message mentioning to &#8220;click here&#8221; for a privacy policy, only it&#8217;s not linked/clickable! Nor is there any mention of whether my mail was sent or not!<br />
<a href='http://cgarvey.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/2008-06-11_1607.png'><img src="http://cgarvey.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/2008-06-11_1607-300x37.png" alt="Setanta Website snip" title="Setanta Website snip" width="300" height="37" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-129" /></a></p>
<p>My last (well, before cancelling the direct debit, that is) is to try regular email, but then I received an email &#8220;Delivery Status Notification (Failure)&#8221; from Setanta. Sure enough, it&#8217;s my message that I submitted. Now here&#8217;s where it gets embarrassing for Setanta! The online form obviously sends a message with a from header of the email address submitted on the form (rather than an email address on their own domain like onlineform@setanta.com. Given that their mail servers are configured to query SPF records (bravo Setanta!), and that the online form sends mail from the specified address (think &#8220;on behalf of&#8221;), the mail failed to send, because I have responsible SPF records set up on my cgarvey.com domain. The reason given for the failure was &#8220;failed to meet SPF requirements&#8221; which I&#8217;d expect.</p>
<p>I have to forgive the online form &#8216;mail from&#8217; header misgivings as the designers/coders probably don&#8217;t know who is responsible for the mail servers, let alone what SPF is. So I was just about to email them the same message (pointing to here) and see if that mode works, when I get another email. It&#8217;s a standard mail, &#8220;Your comments are very welcome and will be passed to the relevant department&#8221;.</p>
<p>Phone service: FAIL. IVR: FAIL. Online form feedback: FAIL. SPF querying on SMTP (in itself good) sending bounces (to potentially random addresses), but passing on the mail regardless: FAIL.</p>
<p>Setanta Sports: FAIL!</p>
<p>I had subscribed to the notion I&#8217;ll be back for Magners League in the Autumn, but I&#8217;m not so sure anymore!</p>
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